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Nicolas Le Novere


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Re: Proposed addition to L3 core 08 Sep '09 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message

Chris J. Myers wrote:
> I can think of one way that this proposal could affect simulation.
> Namely, with the entity concept, one could plot the total amount of
> some entity which may be useful. One could also use the total amount
> in rate laws and equations by referring to the entity id. Currently,
> this can be done by creating an artificial total species and using an
> assignment rule, but the entity idea seems a bit cleaner to me.

I do not see why this is "artificial", but I actually agree this is a good
idea. And the group fits that perfectly.

> The problem I see though is what I'm often interested in is not how
> many molecules of a species are in all compartments but rather how
> many molecules are in all forms. For example, the total amount of CI
> is the number of monomers, plus two times the number of dimers, plus
> all the various bound CI molecules. This is not captured by the
> entity concept. R

Exactly! Thanks for pointing that. If I have four species MAPKK, MAPKKP,
MAPK, MAPKP, I want to be able to say "all the MAPK proteins", "all the
phosphorylated proteins", "all the kinases"

group kinases: MAKP, MAPKP, MAPKK, MAPKKP
group MAPK: MAPK, MAPKP
group phosphorylated: MAPKP, MAPKKP

> I'm not sure though how strongly I would push to have such a concept
> in the core. I would not argue against it, since it is useful. If
> this idea is absorbed into the groups package, then I would like to
> see it modified to accept a number which can be interpreted as the
> number molecules in a complex as described above.

Yes, I would very much like that too actually.



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Read Message   Proposed addition to L3 core Robert Phair07 Sep '09 00:04
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere07 Sep '09 09:35
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli07 Sep '09 11:38
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere08 Sep '09 00:15
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli08 Sep '09 04:41
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Stefan.Hoops08 Sep '09 07:28
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli08 Sep '09 08:48
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Stefan.Hoops08 Sep '09 09:22
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli08 Sep '09 10:31
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere08 Sep '09 09:30
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli08 Sep '09 10:39
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Robert Phair09 Sep '09 01:02
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere09 Sep '09 05:14
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli09 Sep '09 06:54
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Pedro Mendes09 Sep '09 08:09
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka09 Sep '09 12:41
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Pedro Mendes09 Sep '09 14:52
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka10 Sep '09 00:13
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli10 Sep '09 05:25
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere08 Sep '09 09:12
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core myers08 Sep '09 09:41
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core  Nicolas Le Novere08 Sep '09 15:34
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka09 Sep '09 12:13
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core hsauro09 Sep '09 14:07
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Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core mblinov09 Sep '09 17:34
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core myers09 Sep '09 18:16
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core eric.minch09 Sep '09 20:04
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere10 Sep '09 02:02
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka12 Sep '09 01:43
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere12 Sep '09 08:37
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka17 Sep '09 21:59
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka12 Sep '09 01:49
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core myers12 Sep '09 06:30
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere12 Sep '09 10:45
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka12 Sep '09 11:57
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Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli08 Sep '09 09:46
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere08 Sep '09 15:41
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli09 Sep '09 04:29
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Mike Hucka08 Sep '09 22:54
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli09 Sep '09 04:17
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Ion08 Sep '09 09:21
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli08 Sep '09 10:41
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Schaff08 Sep '09 09:30
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere08 Sep '09 15:29
Read Message   L3 core vs. packages Lucian Smith09 Sep '09 00:10
Read Message   Re: L3 core vs. packages Nicolas Le Novere09 Sep '09 02:02
Read Message   Re: L3 core vs. packages Mike Hucka09 Sep '09 12:06
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core curoli07 Sep '09 09:48
Read Message   Re: Proposed addition to L3 core Nicolas Le Novere07 Sep '09 12:45
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