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Stefan.Hoops


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Re: No defaults in SBML L3 21 Sep '09 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to previous message

Hello Chris,

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:39:46 -0600
"Chris J. Myers" <myers@ece.utah.edu> wrote:

> >
> > If a developer wants as minimal impact on his code as possible
> > they are
> > free to keep coding towards L2 for which libsml provides well
> > defined default values. For L3 support one can use the excellent
> > libsbml conversion facilities to read and write.
> >
> I'd really like to stop hearing this argument being made. I don't
> think we should be advocating continued use of L2 but rather
> developing an L3 that people are happy with. If the answer to all
> suggestions is if you don't like it, use L2, then L3 will never gain
> acceptance. In which case, why is L3 being developed? What good is
> a clean language if no one uses it?

I agree with that completely. However I do not understand why you want
to water down the achievements by reintroducing the defaults in the
libsbml API for convenience.

>
> A better approach, in my opinion, is to come up with ways that
> people can use L3 for their needs. Case in point is my suggestion of
> adding a readSBML that provides defaults to required entries. Or, a
> readAndConvert function which would also need to provide defaults
> since L2 had defaults. I really think it is problematic to allow
> SBML files to be read that have missing, unspecified, required
> entries.

I agree again. However, I do not advocate to introduce the fix
functions you suggest. An L3 file which does not contain mandatory
elements is not valid and can not be fixed.

A convenient method for writing L2 or even L1V2 files which
explicitly spells out all defaults would help even the older
Levels to gain clarity.

Thanks,
Stefan


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SubjectPosterDate
Read Message   No defaults in SBML L3 Sarah Keating15 Sep '09 02:28
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Frank Bergmann15 Sep '09 09:00
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Lucian Smith18 Sep '09 17:03
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 myers18 Sep '09 19:33
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Sarah Keating21 Sep '09 01:02
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 myers21 Sep '09 08:57
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Stefan.Hoops21 Sep '09 10:17
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 myers21 Sep '09 10:39
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 curoli21 Sep '09 11:00
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3  Stefan.Hoops21 Sep '09 12:19
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Lucian Smith21 Sep '09 12:56
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Lucian Smith21 Sep '09 12:42
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Mike Hucka21 Sep '09 22:03
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Stefan.Hoops22 Sep '09 06:37
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 curoli22 Sep '09 12:21
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Stefan.Hoops22 Sep '09 13:40
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 curoli22 Sep '09 14:42
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Stefan.Hoops22 Sep '09 15:03
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Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Sarah Keating23 Sep '09 01:29
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 curoli23 Sep '09 05:40
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 Sarah Keating23 Sep '09 07:08
Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 myers23 Sep '09 08:47
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Read Message   Re: No defaults in SBML L3 myers23 Sep '09 08:16
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