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Lucian Smith


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Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to events 25 Jun '10 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to previous message

* shoops <shoops@vbi.vt.edu> [2010-06-25 14:14] writes:
> Hello Lucian,
>
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:06:24 +0100
> Lucian Smith <lpsmith@spod-central.org> wrote:
>
> > > 3) Some simultaneously executed events have the priority object and
> > > some not.
> > > Not defined as in L2V4 and L3 currently
> >
> > Yes, except that in #3, those events with priorities must execute in
> > priority order. It's only the events without priorities that may
> > execute in any order.
>
> This is not possible. You have a set of elements of which some can be
> ordered and some not. This leads to the situation that the set cannot
> be ordered, i.e., the behavior is undefined. Every other
> interpretation would have to introduce some defaults which are
> strictly prohibited. Note that executing the events in a random order
> or partially random order as yu usggest is different than the order
> being undefined. People can easily avoid this situation by specifying
> the priority attribute for all events.

I think you're misunderstanding me. If you have six events, three with
priorities and three without:

10 7 2 X X X

The X's can be inserted anywhere, *but* the 10 must fire before the 7
which must fire before the 2.

X X X 10 7 2
X 10 X X 7 2
10 X 7 X 2 X
10 7 2 X X X

but not:

7 2 X 10 X X

There are no defaults, and the overall behavior is undefined... but the
priority-flagged events still fire in a defined order with respect to each
other.

-Lucian
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Read Message   Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to events Mike Hucka24 Jun '10 14:26
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops24 Jun '10 16:10
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers24 Jun '10 16:47
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers24 Jun '10 17:02
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops24 Jun '10 18:58
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith24 Jun '10 23:06
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 04:05
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve...  Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 08:36
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 09:12
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 09:50
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 10:09
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 11:53
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 12:31
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 13:05
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Nicolas Le Novere25 Jun '10 14:24
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 14:56
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Nicolas Le Novere25 Jun '10 15:13
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers26 Jun '10 10:21
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers25 Jun '10 09:58
Read Message   Results of Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities... mhucka12 Jul '10 11:59
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