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Stefan.Hoops


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Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to events 25 Jun '10 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to previous message

Hello Lucian,

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:50:34 +0100
Lucian Smith <lpsmith@spod-central.org> wrote:

> I think we're saying the same thing? The firing of the X's in indeed
> undefined. Because they are undefined (but *some* order must be
> chosen) any of my four examples are possibilities. In fact, there
> are 20 possibilities, and all of them are legal (120, if you include
> the possible permutations of the X's). The simulator may choose any
> method it wants to choose between them--the specification leaves it
> undefined.

No we are not saying the same thing. It is not possible to mix
undefined and ordered. Undefined behavior as in L2V4 and L3 is not the
same as a random order. I may be the same order every time you simulate
or it may change from simulation to simulation, it may even lead to
stopping the simulation.

Again, we should avoid defining a resolution of a situation which
should be avoided to begin with. If someone decides that the order of
simultaneous events is important for the correct simulation of a model
than they need to define the priority of all events which may occur
simultaneously. If that is not done the outcome is undefined.

Thanks,
Stefan


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Read Message   Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to events Mike Hucka24 Jun '10 14:26
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops24 Jun '10 16:10
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers24 Jun '10 16:47
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers24 Jun '10 17:02
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops24 Jun '10 18:58
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith24 Jun '10 23:06
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 04:05
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 08:36
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 09:12
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 09:50
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve...  Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 10:09
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 11:53
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Stefan.Hoops25 Jun '10 12:31
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 13:05
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Nicolas Le Novere25 Jun '10 14:24
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Lucian Smith25 Jun '10 14:56
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... Nicolas Le Novere25 Jun '10 15:13
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers26 Jun '10 10:21
Read Message   Re: Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities to eve... myers25 Jun '10 09:58
Read Message   Results of Event survey #1 of 3: adding priorities... mhucka12 Jul '10 11:59
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