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I think I we should release a distrib package without mutilvariate distributions first. There should be no problem upgrading the package later. From Sarah's message, I think we are gravitating towards adding a small, simple package for the mean, stddev, lower, and upper bounds. This is fine by me. I think packages can move much faster than core changes. Keep in mind there are a lot of items being discussed for L3V2, and they will require more discussion. No need to delay these items for that discussion.

Chris

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Moodie wrote:

> I agree too. Especially as the current (post HARMONY) proposal is to use the arrays package to support multivariate distributions in distrib - i.e. you will need to implement support for arrays in order to support distrib.
>
> Given the view that it would be good to put this functionality in the core, one way to achieve this would be to create a small 'stats' package now and if successful move it to the core at a later date. Is this possible within L3? is there a mechanism for deprecating packages in future versions of L3?
>
> On 16 Jul 2012, at 15:29, Stefan Hoops wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:08:24 -0700
>> Herbert M Sauro <hsauro@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Pedro, simple measures such as stdev etc could easily be
>>> in the core. I am reminded of the saying:
>>>
>>> Make the simple things simple and hard things
>>> possible
>>>
>>> I think that most likely applies here.
>>>
>>> The distrib package could be used to hold the 'hard' information.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I more than second this!
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>> Herbert Sauro
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Pedro Mendes <mendes@vbi.vt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/12/2012 04:32 PM, Nicolas Le Novère wrote:
>>>>> The big question is the package to which those attribute should
>>>>> belong to:
>>>>> 1) core (remember those are optional attributes)?
>>>>> 2) distrib?
>>>>> 3) another package? (at some point it was suggested to develop a
>>>>> stat package, for instance to extend the MathML).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am probably too old fashioned, but I would actually add this to
>>>> the core. Programs could easily ignore the stdev attribute, but
>>>> those who know what to do with it could then take it.
>>>>
>>>> The alternative would be to make a very small package that just
>>>> adds these optional attributes.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Nicolas that to force a full-blown distrib package is
>>>> perhaps too much and very few programs would therefore end up
>>>> taking this up.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro
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