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Nicolas Le Novere


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RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing ratelaws 22 Jul '05 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to previous message


> Local parameters seem wonderful until you find that you must refer to them
> from outside their scope. Optimization is a case in point.
>
> Optimization requires a vector of unique parameter names/ids, and so to
> fit
> an entire model to data requires that global parameters be passed to the
> optimizer. I have to agree that it's very convenient to be able to use Km
> again and again locally, but as soon as you begin a parameter optimization
> procedure I believe you are going to have to give your parameters global
> names, or at least global ids, anyway. So, like Herbert, I have a strong
> preference for global parameters.

> Furthermore, any attempt to legislate one or the other out of existence is
> doomed to fail on logical grounds. No software tool can afford to treat
> the
> global/local distinction lightly because there are important use cases
> where
> global parameters become local and others where local parameters become
> global.

Your comments are absolutely right of course. But again, they are
tool-related problem. Over the last year or so, it seems that one tends to
forget that SBML is meant to exchange models between tools, not to be a
sort of configuration files for simulators. So for instance, a tool can
always read an SBML files with local parameters and rewrite them as global
parameters (and play with that, like merging param with same value etc.)

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Read Message   Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rate la... Mike Hucka17 Jun '05 18:28
Read Message   Re: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... bshapiro17 Jun '05 19:15
Read Message   Re: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Mike Hucka29 Jun '05 08:04
Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Andrew Finney18 Jun '05 07:19
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Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Mike Hucka05 Jul '05 00:02
Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Nicolas Le Novere05 Jul '05 01:35
Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Mike Hucka05 Jul '05 10:21
Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Nicolas Le Novere05 Jul '05 11:33
Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Mike Hucka16 Jul '05 01:10
Read Message   Re: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Howard16 Jul '05 09:50
Read Message   Re: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Matt Halstead16 Jul '05 16:59
Read Message   Re: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Mike Hucka18 Jul '05 00:28
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Read Message   Re: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Mike Hucka20 Jul '05 20:09
Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Darren J Wilkinson21 Jul '05 01:19
Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Nicolas Le Novere21 Jul '05 07:51
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Read Message   Re: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Nicolas Le Novere21 Jul '05 14:13
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Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Nicolas Le Novere21 Jul '05 14:16
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Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing ra...  Nicolas Le Novere22 Jul '05 01:10
Read Message   Global vs. local parameters (was: Proposal: simple... Pedro Mendes22 Jul '05 07:01
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Read Message   RE: Proposal: simple mechanism for referencing rat... Mike Hucka22 Jul '05 15:33
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