Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #4: References to controlled vocabularies
23 Dec '05 09:07
As the current sbml-discuss moderator, I should have been
more vigilant and spotted this, and shouldn't have let this
through moderation. I want apologize to the rest of the
It's my intention to take steps to
(i) add additional moderators (I'm currently the only one
-- we had more in the past), to cover while I'm
unavailable (such as this week)
(ii) have explicit policies about what's allowed in the way
of postings on sbml-discuss, so that we can filter out
inappropriate postings and eject people who don't
And to Mr. Salis:
Have you noticed you're the only one on sbml-discuss who has
ever brought the kind of reaction your message has
precipitated? (I've received private email worse than
what's shown up on the list.) Have you noticed you're the
only one in years of sbml-discuss who has forced me twice in
the past to explicitly stop fruitless or off-topic
Your record of behavior would probably be grounds for
dismissal from the list, but in the absence of explicit list
policies, I feel uncomfortable doing that. Until now,
sbml-discuss hasn't needed hard policies because people
generally behaved better.
And finally, a word of unsolicited advice to you: as a
graduate student, you might want to reflect on the fact that
your behavior and general approach to these discussions
isn't endearing you to your potential future scientific
peers. Try to think about the various implications of that,
especially for the time after you graduate.
Don't flatter yourself now by thinking "Wow, I've riled the
hornet's nest yet again", as you wrote in a message Dec. 11.
You've done something quite different.
Have a nice holiday.
salis> Pedro, So what you're proposing is for me to spend
salis> extra time making my program slower because the
salis> community demands compliance? Wow. No offense, but
salis> that doesn't sound like a good plan. I'd rather
salis> have a common file format that is so easy to use
salis> that there is no need to 'ensure compliance'. I
salis> will continue my intransigent position until SBML
salis> is usable For The Rest of Us.
salis> (Can I be the first to coin the phrase 'SBML Nazi'?
salis> Akin to Fashion/Grammar. Or is that too politically
salis> -Howard Salis
salis> Pedro Mendes wrote:
>> On Thursday 22 December 2005 12:22, Howard Salis wrote:
>>> And if the standard says the MathML is
>>> authoritative...sure, why not. But my program won't
>>> read in the SBML model without the sboTerms because
>>> it's impractical otherwise. O well.
>> Not exactly the spirit that all the other SBML
>> participants usually have... SBML has been successful
>> exactly because tool makers have been committed to
>> using a common file format that all could
>> understand. This has made several of us to end up
>> programming things into our software that was not
>> originally in our plans - but we gained compatibility
>> and our users gained even more. If everyone would take
>> the intransigent position you seem to be taking then
>> there would be no SBML. O well.