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Stefan Hoops


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Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math' optional in KineticLaw 19 Jan '06 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to previous message

Hello Nicholas,

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:22:55 +0000 (GMT)
Nicolas Le Novère <lenov@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:

>
> >
> > In StochSim you have an underlying set of assumption and rules,
> > i.e., mathematical expressions or functions. For anyone to
> > understand how your tool interprets the model you need to phrase
> > that in the Math element. It is probably not a rate law instead it
> > is an algebraic expression something like SE = kd * E.
>
> You are right with that example.
>
> > You should not do that via sboTerms as this
> > removes the contents from SBML.
>
> I'm bewildered. How comes SBO sneaked in here again. What is the
> relevance?

I get your point :)

>
> > In anyway, "Mathematics" is considered a
> > rich universal language and that is why we agreed to use it in SBML
> > to begin with.
>
> But the math element of kineticLaw is not any mathematical expression.
> It is a mathematical expression describing the velocity of a reaction
> in substance/tiem units.

You are exactly right, this is exactly why I suggest subclassing of
the kinetic law to be able to describe other mechanisms than ODE in an
earlier message in the is thread :)

Thanks,
Stefan


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Read Message   SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math' opt... Mike Hucka13 Jan '06 16:15
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Stefan Hoops16 Jan '06 09:06
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Nicolas Le Novere16 Jan '06 11:57
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Stefan Hoops17 Jan '06 06:29
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Nicolas Le Novere17 Jan '06 09:04
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Stefan Hoops18 Jan '06 07:21
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Nicolas Le Novere18 Jan '06 13:22
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'...  Stefan Hoops19 Jan '06 07:03
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Darren J Wilkinson19 Jan '06 13:28
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Henning Schmidt18 Jan '06 00:28
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Mike Hucka26 Jan '06 21:02
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Stefan Hoops27 Jan '06 04:58
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Mike Hucka27 Jan '06 17:19
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Stefan Hoops30 Jan '06 05:18
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Mike Hucka30 Jan '06 13:49
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math... Mike Hucka18 Jan '06 22:47
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Herbert Sauro23 Jan '06 15:35
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... tg23 Jan '06 16:05
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Mike Hucka25 Jan '06 18:18
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... jrohwer24 Jan '06 00:07
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Nicolas Le Novere24 Jan '06 01:07
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Pedro Mendes24 Jan '06 05:59
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Mike Hucka25 Jan '06 18:01
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Herbert Sauro24 Jan '06 12:34
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Pedro Mendes24 Jan '06 13:14
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Herbert Sauro24 Jan '06 17:28
Read Message   Re: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Pedro Mendes24 Jan '06 18:27
Read Message   RE: SBML L2v2 specification vote #7: Making 'math'... Herbert Sauro25 Jan '06 10:54
Read Message   Results of L2v2 specification vote #7 Mike Hucka30 Jan '06 13:48
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