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Martin Ginkel


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Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML 10 Feb '06 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to previous message

Herbert Sauro wrote:
> This model has a rateRule for a quantity called p3. However the rateRule
> is function of one of the species, it is therefore strictly a state
> variable just like a floating species. The trouble is, there is nowhere
> sensible to declare such a variable. It is obviously not a parameter and
> as some have noted, it is also not a species, so where should it go?
> Given that it is a state variable, and a rateRule at that, it should
> have an initial condition, so where does this go, into the list of
> global parameters? In fact, in the SBML p3 is initialized in the list of
> parameters even though it is not a parameter. Now I understand the
> confusion because where ever one puts it there would be disagreement.

Do you remember, that we discussed this before?
http://www.sbml.org/forums/index.php?t=tree&th=379&mid=1137&rid=0&rev=&reveal=

Yes, the so-called 'parameters' can be intermediately assigned variables
(assignmentrule), dynamic state (rate rule) or algebraic state
(determined by algebraic rule) in SBML.

And I completely aggree: It would be better to call them differently and
define 'parameter' to be something, that is not changed by the model
(constant=true).

CU
Martin


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Read Message   Suggestion for new section in SBML Herbert Sauro09 Feb '06 23:51
Read Message   Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML Rainer Machne10 Feb '06 04:46
Read Message   Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML  Martin Ginkel10 Feb '06 04:51
Read Message   RE: Suggestion for new section in SBML rphair10 Feb '06 12:31
Read Message   RE: Suggestion for new section in SBML Nicolas Le Novere11 Feb '06 17:14
Read Message   Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML Jordan Atlas11 Feb '06 11:37
Read Message   Re: Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML Martin Ginkel13 Feb '06 00:39
Read Message   Re: Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML Mike Hucka14 Feb '06 19:31
Read Message   Re: Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML Martin Ginkel15 Feb '06 02:10
Read Message   Re: Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML Mike Hucka15 Feb '06 10:58
Read Message   Re: [sbml-discuss]Suggestion for new section in SB... Martin Ginkel15 Feb '06 23:51
Read Message   Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML bshapiro11 Feb '06 19:52
Read Message   Re: Suggestion for new section in SBML Mike Hucka14 Feb '06 19:23
Read Message   RE: Suggestion for new section in SBML Andrew Finney17 Feb '06 00:53
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Read Message   RE: Suggestion for new section in SBML Nicolas Le Novere19 Feb '06 16:05
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